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  1. #251
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    Oh my goodness, just seen this again. I forget about Ja.com cos I'm hardly ever here...;-(

    Yes, did go to Malaysia, did fly M.A. - no problems at all - and had a fantastic time! What a country! Beautiful nature, friendly people (who don't hussle for anything), great food, really cheap (2 euros for a huge plate of food). The food is Malay, Chinese, Indian and Baba Nonya, which is the mixed-culture of Chinese merchants marrying Malay women since the 1400's, when they first arrived.

    Loved Langkawi, the only drawback is there is no public transport, it's all taxis.

    Loved KL, what a buzz. Lots to do and went up to the top of the Petronas Twin Towers.
    It's great for shopping too. Central market, KLCC shopping mall (in the Twin Towers) - even had lunch with Pimms in Harrods dahling!!
    Loved the bird and butterfly parks too. And little India.

    There's a great Reggae Bar in KL, in Chinatown. Very relaxed and lovely people working there - uniform: Bob Marley t-shirts.

    Tioman was amazing. Just jungle down the mountain to the beach with a few huts to stay in. (and a few beach bars for at night). It was bliss.

    Malaka was amazing, huge China Town, night market every weekend night, amazing food, lovely temples and some great museums. My friend had been before and knew the people running the Jazz cafe. We had some good times there.
    Our hostel was fabulous. Two roof gardens and a lovely young couple running it.

    Oh I would go back in a heartbeat....
    Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out - Jack Buck

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    Just spotted this. Yes it's an old thread but it is the first I am seeing it and I am dying to go to Langkawi.

    When I was in KL last, I met a British photo-journalist from National Geographic I believe it was. We ran into each other almost every day in the lounge and had some great talks. The night before I left KL, he told me he was going to Langkawi in advance of some work there. He goes in selects the locations for the shoots and has a team of photographers who work with him. He invited me to postpone my trip back to Canada and spend the weekend with him. As I am not the whorish, baggy dropping type, I turned him down. Guess I will have to get there on my ow dime when I can afford to pay for it miself.

    Thank you for sharing this. It's a good reminder that I had better save. It's supposed to be absolutely glorious but expensive. Any tips for stretching the budget?

    I really want to go to Tioman too. I have been to KL, Genting, Cameron Highlands, Kuching, Melaka, and Penang. Loved all of them but especially Kuching and Cameron Highlands. I believe Wahalla has been to some of these places too.
    Last edited by Tropicana; 05-29-2013 at 06:17 PM.

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    But I would be interested if u note the tension in Malaysia.
    I have never sensed any tension in Malaysia and I am always with local people when I go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tropicana View Post
    I have never sensed any tension in Malaysia and I am always with local people when I go there.
    There are huge tensions in Malaysia......

    Dont get me wrong I like Malaysia....But it is a nation with racial, ancestral and ethnic tension at its heart.... if u are a Bumi u are at the top pf the pile.. They do hide it well... but people of Hindu and chinese there are huge issues....

    I was trying to recruit trainees and u do not have access to the best candidates......
    What nonsense! How can you have a revolution without shooting people ? Lenin 26th October 1917...
    If Christians go to heaven, I do not want to go to Heaven: Hatuey. 2/02/1512

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    I have never observed it and I have been there almost 20 times. I have been in multi-racial groups and everyone seemed to get along. I see far more diversity in the executive suite than I do in Canada for example. I guess it is all relative and it depends on what one is comparing it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tropicana View Post
    I have never observed it and I have been there almost 20 times. I have been in multi-racial groups and everyone seemed to get along. I see far more diversity in the executive suite than I do in Canada for example. I guess it is all relative and it depends on what one is comparing it to.
    I am cautious to tell you why that is...

    A comment a Chinese Malaysian made to me: Mahatir was a great anti Apartheid campaigner at the same time he set up laws that were subtle and equally rascist

    It is more complex than that... Have u actually read any local newspapers ? They are exactly like the newspapers in the Gulf with no ctiisism of the goverment. They have in place a goverment censor in the editorial staff.... So every thing appears bland..

    Look at adverts for new build houses.. if u look at the small print there is usually a line. that states. Bumiputara discount of 9%. Their are quotas in place that limit based on ethnicity.... If u try to recruit u are forced to take Bumiputara... Interestingly I belleive that there hasnt been a census for a few years because it would indicate that the proportions of minorities chinese and indians have increased relative to the bumiputaras, as this would impact how resources are deployed.

    I also beleive that there is a

    but then I have a habit of getting drunk with journalists.

    Interestingly who u need to speak to are ex pat Malaysians... Usually they are indian extraction or Chinese....

    Social clubs are split along ethnic lines and one of the few times I saw open acknowledgment of the issue was during a commonwealth games 8 years ago...it was to do with Jamaican success. What the oped peice acknowledge that Jamaica athletes out performs every one because Jamaicans see themselves as Jamaican... while Malaysia are held back by the fact that they dont mix and they eat too much!


    However if u are invited to

    Here is a Kanadian Asian perspective.. since I know wahalla knows nothing....



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/8524353.stm


    here is a paper that puts context...

    http://www.isn.ethz.ch/Digital-Libra...g=en&id=152597



    But just remember during apartheid there were visitors who went to South Africa who said the land was filled with happy Africans....

    again I like KL alot....
    Last edited by Wahalla; 06-05-2013 at 03:27 AM.
    What nonsense! How can you have a revolution without shooting people ? Lenin 26th October 1917...
    If Christians go to heaven, I do not want to go to Heaven: Hatuey. 2/02/1512

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    I have responded to you here Walhalla. I don't want to mash up Jazz's thread with all of her pretty pictures:

    http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/show...es-in-Malaysia

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